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September 8, 2010

Blog Writing, due 9/10


Please write 50 to 150 words on one of the two topics. You can write in the comment section below. Please do this by class on Friday, 9 am.

1) Pick a moment in Dorothy Parker's story "Here We Are" that you find compelling, exciting, or troubling. Pick a detail or specific passage and ask why Parker decided to use this. It can be the train, the advertisements, the hat, New York City, whatever. But in such a compact story, as we said in class, every word counts. Guess why Parker added a particular detail and decide what that detail does for the greater story.

2) Watch Dave Egger's talk about Valencia 826 (the non-profit your textbook is supporting). Now consider how he tells his story. Everybody makes sense of the world by using narrative, a story with an arc, good and bad characters, a quest, etc. How does Eggers present his story about the creation of this after-school resource? How does he use humor? Why? What surprised you about Egger's story? Pick one of these questions, or find one of your own, and write some ideas about how this story is developed and try to guess why.
Posted by      Kevin P. at 7:47 AM EDT

Comments:

  Thomas M.  says:
The part in the short story "Here We Are" that i found very interesting was when the young man and the young lady brought up her friend Joe. Joe is a salesman that is a very close friend of the young ladies. The young man in the story is very jealous of Joe it seems as he gets very jealous at how they are writing letters and things like that. I felt like there was something really weird going on there with her and Joe and how she stuck up for him when they began to fight about it. It was really sketchy and got me thinking.
Posted on Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:55 PM EDT by Thomas M.
  Christina C.  says:
I loved Dave Eggers talk. I thought it was very interesting. I thought It was great that he set up all of these after school resourses for the kids. I loved the fact that he used humor in his speak. I don't think I would have got into it if he didn't. I think it was also interesting that every center was a funny store infront and the a center in the back. What really surprised me was the fact that there was so many of these places being opened and the fact that they had so many volenteers. I think its great that everyone is getting involved in this. If there was one close to me I would certainly help out. I think Dave needed to make this fun and exciting to get people involved.
Posted on Wed, 8 Sep 2010 9:12 PM EDT by Christina C.
  Peter S.  says:
Dave Eggers use of humor in his speech and his program is very clever. Obviously his humor in the speech captivates the audience and keeps them entertained, while calming his own nerves. Further the buildings in which the program is run are very cleverly constructed. By using humorous names and merchandise the buildings create a place for fun, imagination and inspiration. Most importantly the areas of learning are well kept and full of helpful people who like to teach. These helpful teachers along with the atmosphere create an environment different from that of school, which has a legendary stigma, allowing for a fun and free environment for imagination and English language skills to grow.
Posted on Wed, 8 Sep 2010 9:40 PM EDT by Peter S.
  David K.  says:
I like how Dave Eggers captures his audience by talking to his audience as though he was telling a story. He has his introduction, body, and conclusion to his talk. He started by telling how his idea came about and how his history/childhood affected his idea. He use humor to capture his audience and uses humor to capture the students and community to the pirate supply/tutoring center. The humor and his idea of thinking outside of the box played a big role in the creation of his after school program but there is a con to his idea. In the first couple of weeks no body attended the tutoring center because the idea of a tutoring center behind a pirate supply shop is sketchy. The reason why he got the attention of so many volunteer is that he made the enviorment of the center a safe and fun place to work. I like how people caught on to his idea and start building tutoring center in their city. He finish his talk by telling the audience the success of the tutoring center and how a kid who was once was distracted from work now is a successor in writing.
Posted on Wed, 8 Sep 2010 9:54 PM EDT by David K.
  Maciej D.  says:
What surprised me the most about the entire narrative that Dave Eggers created was how everything was that out of the box and everything taht he created was original that nobody had thought to put together yet. I mean a pirate store and actually sold pirate equipment even the peg legs and eye patches that really genius. Although he never thought the store would make any profit well here they were just creating a store full of fake, but original ideas and it worked. In today's world where most business know the rule of either you make it or break it well Dave Eggers and his team most certainly made it. If it was not for him having to create this store front due to the property being what it was the odds of pulling this off would have been against him. Lots of small business should see this video and think about their own approaches to their own fronts.
Posted on Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:24 PM EDT by Maciej D.
  Nick R.  says:
I like how Dave Eggers dedicated time and money to help support children in education. He rented out a space that was not suitable for learning in the beginning but then he was able to make it into a suitable area. He was also able to make it into interact the an area he said was like out of a pirate scenario. I also enjoyed how he used humor in his speech. It was able to catch my attention and the audiences. Everything in the building was created from scratch. all lot of free time was put into this place for tutoring children. Dave Eggers really shows us as individuals that dreams can come true with just confidence.
Posted on Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:46 PM EDT by Nick R.
  Stephen W.  says:
Dorothy Parker's story "Here We Are" was a surprising story. As we discussed in class it was odd to read this particular love story that highlights the tension of budding love rather than what were use to seeing. This may not have been a typical love story, but I did find it to be a typical representation of married life. The couple were just coming from the church and all ready the woman was starting with her nagging. Typical, is what I thought to my self, they will find anything to complain about. The husband played his part very well I thought. Tell her what she wants to hear in order to seal the deal and get the goods. Lastly, the story left me with the impression that the relationship will most likely end in disaster if they can not trust each other. The woman seemed a little to fond of that sales man if you know what I mean.
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 9:07 AM EDT by Stephen W.
  David s.  says:
The part of the Dorothy Parker story that I liked the most is the nagging and the fighting. The young lady seem to find any little thing to pick a fight with the young man. Such as he is doesn't like her sister, the hat and Louise. Its their honeymoon and they're going to New York to have fun. All she wants to do is fight and write thank you letters. The young man is a good guy, he tells her what she wants to hear like a good husband should and he tries to stop the fighting.
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:41 AM EDT by David s.
  Jessica G.  says:
The sentence in Dorothy Parker's story that I found interesting was "I sort of don't know where I am or what its all about". I think Parker decided to include this sentence to tell us she was confused not only the wedding but the future. It tells the reader that she is unaware of the expectations of a honey moon, marriage or anything to come. Not only the expectations brought by the wedding tradition but of herself and her new husband. I think this sentence was put in the middle of all their arguing back and forth to remind the reader that she isn't mad that he looked at her friend or that her hat is not his favorite but that she worries that she is not going to meet his expectations.
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 1:23 PM EDT by Jessica G.
  Joan O.  says:
I found Dorothy parker's story really captivating and really insightful on the matters of marriage and love that affect a larger part of todays's society. What got my attention was the way that dorothy contrasts the behavior and character of the bride. From the begining we get an impression that she is this lovely, sweet and tender bride who seemingly would make the perfect wife. She seems to be shy in the begining saying very little to her husband and having nice things to say about other people i.e louis and her sister Ellie. However, as the stiry progressed a different side of the groom is revealed which paints her as cold, insensitive jelous and maybe unfaithfulh (with the mention of joe brookes in the story i thought there might have been an affair between the two and maybe the bride is not as innocent as we initially thought). As a reader i was eager to know what would happen to this young innocent lady and maybe due to conditioned societal expectations as discussed earlier in class, i expected that she would be loving, humble,submissive , eager to please and meet her husbands needs. I expected the male character to be the bad character so to speak, as in i thought he would be the domineering voice and force in the relationship. Contracy to my expectations however, there seems to be a reversal of roles which in my opinion displaces and revokes what the ideal honeymoon and marriage should be. I think by reversing these roles, dorothy parker is trying to open the readers mind to understand that marriage is not a mere proffesion or career with a set of rules and guidelines to follow but that it can be as unpredictable as waking up in the morning. No matter how much we try to set guidelines, we can never have a series of marriages that turn out the same because evryone is unique and therefore would have a different marriage experience. )
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 1:56 PM EDT by Joan O.
  Sarah M.  says:
Dave Eggers seem like at first he thought that his after school resources might not work. He still sat there for weeks waiting for the kids to come. Even though it was free kids still didn?t go. I think its funny how the place is half tutoring center; and half have a pirate supply store. I think that makes the kids more willing to see what?s inside. What surprised me about his story is how it got on around the world. There is one of these tutoring centers in Ireland, New York, and Mass etc. All of these stores have there own themes like the time travel, and super hero supply store. What also surprised me was that he didn?t care about the money ,as long as the kids were helped. When he was saying that he was surprised that the pirate supply store made any money. He took it as a joke. He didn?t think that it would make money. He didn?t care about helping himself. He only cares about helping himself the kids.
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 2:07 PM EDT by Sarah M.
  David B.  says:
Dave Egger's talk about Valencia 826,an after school program for children, was very inspiring to hear. During Egger's talk, he used humor making the presentation much more interesting and appealing to the listeners. Its great that he took the time from his busy schedule to set up a place where children can go for free to improve their writing skills. I thought it was pretty funny that in order to get to the tutoring location, you first have to walk through a pirate shop. However the pirate shop didn't take off till weeks later, it still pays for the rent and a full time employee. Egger's creative thinking created a successful place for children to have a place to go to also learn the English language.
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 2:24 PM EDT by David B.
  Samantha C.  says:
In Dorothy Parker?s ?Here We Are? I thought it was interesting that throughout the short story it is clear that these two people do not know much about each other and yet by the end of the book, through little quibbles, both are determined to make things work. It is repeated ?We won?t fight any more,? or a shorter version of ?We won?t fight,? however both parties end with talking about how they were going to grow old and make a life together. I can only guess that part of the reason Parker put these few lines in was to remind the reader that the story isn?t about love but the love story and how it develops with time.
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 2:41 PM EDT by Samantha C.
  Scott W.  says:
In the short story "Here We Are" by Dorthy Parker, I thought that the author's choice to put the newly-wed couple on a train together was the most interesting element of the narrative. Just as you commit to proceeding to a destination on a train, the two characters committed to eachother with no way out. If you go into Boston and ride the T, more often than not you will see some out-of-towners taking the outbound train when they really wanted to go inbound. Just as these two characters in the story may have wanted to rather pair up with the girlfriend and the salesman, they made a choice to be with eachother instead, even though the do not seem to love or even get along with each other. As much as it sucks, the folks on the outbound train have to wait until the next stop to switch over. And the newly-wed couple, they'll probably end up waiting a few months before they file for divorce.
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 2:59 PM EDT by Scott W.
  Rebecca M.  says:
In Dorthy Parker's "Here We Are" I found her insecurity extremely ironic, in the fact that, they just got married and this is supposed to be the one person she can truly be herself around and completely trust and she is testing him and questioning his intentions. They both seem like they are walking on eggshells around each other and are uncomfortable with each other. There dialog seems unusual for newlyweds and traditionally the reader would expect it to be a much happier and loving conversation.
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 5:18 PM EDT by Rebecca M.
  Jalissa T.  says:
In Dorthy Parker "Here We Are" I thought that the story was very unusual in the fact that the couple doesn't really know each other. They both seem very shy around one another and they are recently married. Usually married couples have had a whole amount of time to get to know one another and usually know there spouses dislikes and likes and it doesn't seem like this couple has that. You would expect that the couple would be more happy and excited due to the fact that they are newlyweds but it seems as though the wife is testing her husband as though she has just realized that reality has just set in and she really doesn't know her own husband.
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 5:30 PM EDT by Jalissa T.
  mary k.  says:
In Dorothy Parker's story "Here We Are" the part that I found most troubling, was the constant arguing of the couple. I though it was too soon to start experiencing marital problems. It was only three hours after they got married and the wife was already worried about whether or not her marriage would last and started to complain constantly. I feel that Parker decided to use this to show that every positive aspect can be accompanied by a negative aspect. The couple just had partaken in a beautiful ceremony that expressed their love for one another and are now arguing on the entire trip to their honeymoon. Also I feel that Parker decided to use this to show the reality of a marriage; not every moment will be filled with peace and bliss.
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 7:38 PM EDT by mary k.
  mario p.  says:
In Dorothy Parker's story "Here We Are", I found it troubling that these newlyweds were constantly fighting a few hours after their wedding. The woman seemed distant, shy, and confused towards her relationship. It seemes as if she was unsure of the decision to get married and often felt that she was alone on the train. For someone to feel this way, I assumed she didn't have anything in common with this person or she rushed into this commitment. She constantly argued about the strangest things that were irrelavant. Instead of enjoying their honeymoon, she made the experiance into a living hell because she really didn't want to be there with this man. I think it took her a few hours to realize that she made the wrong choice.
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 8:30 PM EDT by mario p.
  Sebastian O.  says:
The most compelling part about "Here we are" is when "his" wife says that an awful lot of people get married and it doesn't go well and that these people must have thought it was going to be great. This is a very striking passage because it clearly shows her insecurities and possible outlook on marriage; which can easily be defined as bleak. It is also interesting that she already doubts her marriage when they haven't even been married for a day. The placement of this passage is also important because it is written right after the husband tells her that they are going to be happy and she responds without hesitation; this goes to show that she has absolutely no confidence or belief that a marriage can truly work. Parker effectively uses these small arguments to let the readers know how the main characters perceive marriage.
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 8:54 PM EDT by Sebastian O.
  Junior V.  says:
Ever since I heard the story from "Here we are" was taking place in a train I thought to myself, why would Parker have a married couple go off to their honeymoon in a train or actually start it in there. Once we discussed how he was planning on having them be in a tight situation where they would have to be right next to each other and discuss their future. Which the future meant the railroat track as the road ahead of them.What I understood from this story was that maybe this couple wasn't always use to being right next to each other with the title of being together forever until sickness and death. From the beginning the young woman showed discomfort as if something was bothering her , and always thinking negative as the young man would try an calm her down an try to get a obvious answer of what was going to happen as soon as they got to New York which was humoreous. What I also came to realize was how this love story didn't end with them getting married in a church an running off in the sun for their honeymoon.Parker actually started it at the honeymoon and what might actually happen now a days with married couples.
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 9:40 PM EDT by Junior V.
  Esther I.  says:
In Dorothy Parker story, Here We Are. I find these two couples really interesting, they are identified by their mode of dressing ?the young man in the blue suit? and ?the girl in beige.? She is described by how she wears her hat, fur, frock, gloves and glossy and stiff with novelty. They are nervous and thus lead to their irrelevant arguments, instead of looking forward to their honeymoon. The girl start accusing his husband of not liking her sister Ellie but he could notice that Louise the bridesmaid looked good. This show the girls insecurities about their marriage and the reality is starting to hit her, maybe this is not the right man for her. She realizes that they don?t know too much of each other. She starts having this weird idea about all the people in the world getting married and expecting to leave a good life. I find this so ironic that she would think of others and not her own marriage life or the trip to their honeymoon. I don?t think she is a happy woman.
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 9:42 PM EDT by Esther I.
  Christian N.  says:
One moment in the Dorothy Parker's short story "Here we are" that i found interesting was when the young man brought up the young ladies friend Joe. I said this part of the story was interesting because Joe seems to be the only person the young lady has a good connection with. The young man is very jealous of Joe who is a salesman and who seems to be very close to the young lady.
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:12 PM EDT by Christian N.
  Dashka D.  says:
Throughout reading the story "Here We Are" of Dorothy Parker, this specific detail really kept my intention: Why did Dorothy Parker did not named the main characters? This type of story is an everyday life one and surely the author decide to generalize it by saying "the young man in the blue suit" and " the girl in beige" which are two people we often met in our daily routine. More reading let us undesrtand the choice of " new as a peeled egg, the hat, the shinny gloves. All these specific descriptions confirm her innocence and naiveté. Through their conversation and behavoir we definetely realize that this young virgin couple is nervous about their honeymoon and are embarassed to even mention the word sex. They have seen people getting married every day but from their attitude those two were not ready for such a big commitment.
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:15 PM EDT by Dashka D.
  Elizabeth L.  says:
There's a troubling moment where the young woman says "Everything was so mixed up, I sort of don't know where I am, or what it's all about?" referring to the process of getting married. This is a brief moment where she truly admits her feelings, but she hides it by using excuses. This foreshadows her true feelings towards marriage. I also noticed that Parker chose the title from a phrase that is repeated throughout the story: "Here we are," she said. "Aren't We?" This phrase first appears during the initial conversation between the couple and also in the final conversation between the couple. However, in the final conversation, she adds the word "Yes". The extra word emphasizes that fact that she has finally realized that she's married and that there's no turning back. However, the "Aren't We?" part still indicates that she is apprehensive about the whole idea.
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:15 PM EDT by Elizabeth L.
  Matthew R.  says:
In the story "Here We Are" by Dorothy Parker, the part that really got to me is the overall bickering back and forth but more specifically the argument about the hat. From the beginning of the story the wife starts picking fights with the husband and he puts up a weak fight and then always folds and apologizes. I think this is very typical and realistic of a married couple. The woman is irrational and insecure. She is attacking him about every little thing. Then she keeps bringing up the hat. She is clearly insecure because she gets so upset when she fears that he does not like the hat. One the other side, the husband admits defeat at least three times during the story. Eventually he claims he likes the hat just to shut her up. I think this happens a lot in marriages. Especially on a honeymoon when the husband has an invested interest in keeping the woman happy. It concerns me that the two are already having trust issues and battling it out on the day of their wedding...it doesn't suggest a good future for the couple.
Posted on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 11:25 PM EDT by Matthew R.
  Benjamin N.  says:
Eggers? presentation is a lot like his actual store. He is joking around most of the time, making fun of some of what he?s done, but then on the inside there is a serious message that he is sending. His tutoring center is behind a pirate supply store. The tutoring center is the serious message, and the pirate store is the joke up front. I think this is a very effective approach for what Eggers is doing. He makes a lot of jokes to keep the audience laughing and engaged in what he is saying. He built the pirate supply store so that kids would be more inclined to go there instead of a more traditional school setting. Eggers is doing a great thing of the community and his comedic approach helps accomplish his goals.
Posted on Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:06 PM EDT by Benjamin N.
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